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The Old Bit Syria

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:09 am
by I.J
Now there's one for you to chew over.

I'd like to start by saying that for me the gurning crone in Westminster is now in the same boat as Blair, and I'd see that c*** hang.

Re: The Old Bit Syria

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:21 am
by anders
Uh-huh. Military force to solve a dispute - well it always works doesn't it. Every armed conflict has ended the use of force, shown that use of it won't be tolerated.
For Syria in particular there are no good guys waiting to take over instead, only more gangsters. So what's the point in talking sides for or against the current regime - surely it's better to control them than attack them and just see someone else start it all again.

But of course - we have Westminster. BOMB THEM. BOMB THEM!!!

Re: The Old Bit Syria

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:06 am
by Jambojim52
The warmonger thinks that she can emulate Thatcher with another conflict that will up her status. Got to love the fact she sat up all night waiting on a call from Trump and he calls Macron. :lol:
Time for this country to realise where we stand in the world. No long a majour player and should sit tight and get our own shit in order first.

Re: The Old Bit Syria

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:19 am
by Forrest
A summary of Syria, from here:

President Assad (who is bad ) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels ( who are good ) started winning ( Hurrah!).

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State ( who are definitely bad!) and some continued to support democracy ( who are still good.)

So the Americans (who are good ) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS (which is a good thing) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria.

So President Putin (who is bad, cos he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin (still bad ) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good ) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except that nice Mr Corbyn in the corduroy jacket, who is probably bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (but let’s face it, drinking your own wee is better than IS so no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them Good. America (still Good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran (also Good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now Bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as Good (Doh!.)

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (mmm. might have a point) and hence we will be seen as Bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (Good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also Good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, Good) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

So, now you fully understand everything, all your questions are answered!!!!

Re: The Old Bit Syria

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:05 pm
by Jambojim52
So Forrest, It's the good the bad and the ugly. I will let you decide which one May is. :lol:

Re: The Old Bit Syria

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:22 pm
by HC.
Bad move - the reasons are numerous..

Re: The Old Bit Syria

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:55 pm
by I.J
Decent of the government to gloss over this probably illegal attack by being mammothly racist to the Windrush generation.


Re: The Old Bit Syria

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:27 am
by anders
In the Brexit fun & games I'd forgotten about the Windrush - Britain (well it was England they went to mainly) without a ready supply of European labour having to go and ask 'brown people' to come and do the jobs that weren't getting done otherwise. Should have reminded the racist tinged members of the Leavers of that - that Leave might mean more of the Windrush type again than white Europeans keeping their services going.